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Reportback from Unpermitted March
by ARA Pittsburgh and Columbus, RAG Monday, Mar. 03, 2003 at 1:02 AM
aracolumbus@antiracistaction.us

Reportback on March 1st Anti-War Demonstration - Pittsburgh, PA

Reportback on March 1st Anti-War Demonstration - Pittsburgh, PA
By Assorted Members of Pittsburgh ARA, Columbus ARA, and Roots Action Group

The breakaway march ended when the police dispersed without any violence or property destruction.


Today's anti-war demonstration in Pittsburgh started with a permitted rally at the University of Pittsburgh campus. The rally, which was about 500 hundred people strong, featured a diversity of speakers. They included Molly Rush of the Thomas Merton Center and Bridge Colvin from the Pittsburgh Organizing Group (POG), as well as Sanford Kelson, a representative from the Veterans for Peace. Bridget encouraged people to join the scheduled breakaway march, describing the Pittsburgh Police's ridiculous permit policy which states a permit must be applied for 45 days in advance. She said people would be making a strong statement if they marched without a permit against the war. After Bridget finished speaking, people got ready to march.


The Drum Corps started up and led the marchers to the corner of Bigelow and 5th, where we took to the streets. Activists on bicycles acted as scouts for the march, riding around watching police movements and taking note of people who looked out of place within the march. They also helped advise people in the front about the speed of the march.


A decision was made to march to the Petersen Events Center on the University of Pittsburgh campus, where a basketball game was in process. The idea was that this location would enable mass exposure of the anti-war movement and anti-war ideas to the people of Pittsburgh.


When we arrived at the Center, we encountered several pro-war people who screamed obscenities at us, while others called us traitors and told us to go get jobs. At the same time, there were a lot of people who were happy to see us, and were very much against any war in Iraq. One notable example was a presence of SEIU labor organizers who are currently trying to organize at the university, and were there handing out informational leaflets about the union. They were very excited to see us, and there was great solidarity between the marchers and the union members.


The march to the Petersen Events Center was the first time that we marched into oncoming traffic. It was also the first time that the police attempted to block the march. The police first tried to clear one lane of traffic. Then two cops on foot, with several squad cars directly behind them, walked through the crowd with riot batons out, trying to corral people onto one side of the street. Marchers filled the gap between the cops on foot and the squad cards, and kept marching in the entire width of the street.


During this time, police targeted one member of POG. When they attempted to arrest him, other members of the march thwarted the police action. The police tackled him, but other people came to his aid, pulling him up, and quickly returning him to the crowd so he could blend back in. When the march attempted to turn left on 5th Avenue, the cops escalated their response to the march. The front of the march became a shoving match between the police and protestors. The cops attempted to grab another marcher, a member of Pittsburgh ARA and Roots Action Group, but were rebuffed again. The police were also pushing people holding the banners away from the street. This all resulted in a short standoff, with more marchers gathering behind the two banners facing the police line. The cops offered the bus line for the march, but everyone refused and continued to Forbes, turning left and continuing the breakaway march.


On the way away from the Petersen Events Center on Daruagh, marchers remained in the oncoming traffic lane, lifting their banner over the cars, keeping the lane available for the march. One motorist grabbed the banner and tried to rip it away from the marchers. He accused marchers of scratching his car. Later, when the march returned to Forbes Avenue, this driver joined the march to find the people who he thought were responsible. He confronted one person who had the banner in her bag, putting his hands on her and pushing her around, trying to take her bag. He also spoke to the police, pointing out other people he felt were responsible. Eventually, he left the march when the marchers were alerted to his presence, and began to watch him and follow him to avoid any problems he may have wanted to cause.


The march then continued down Forbes, turning left on Bigelow, passing the Pitt Student Union. The activists then made a right on 5th Avenue, planning to march to the Software Engineering Institute (SEI). The SEI creates software for the Defense Department which is used in weapons of mass destruction, and thus a very real example of the military industrial complex in our own communities. The cops drove up on the left very quickly, hitting people with their cars, all in an attempt to clear the street. The march continued one block, turning right on Bellfield through heavy traffic. The marches were weaving between 3 lanes of traffic packed with cards. Some marchers attempted to turn left on a side street to get to the SEI, but not enough of the march followed. Somehow, the decision was made to return to the sidewalk and walk through the Pitt campus to the Cathedral of Learning. At this point, some of the march dispersed, including some members of POG who had organized the action.


At the cathedral, the Drum Corps continued playing while people were trying to decide what to do. After some discussion, it was obvious that people wanted to continue with the march, so everyone went back into the street and continued to march towards the SEI building. At this point, the breakaway march only had about 50 participants. The police became more aggressive, bringing out a paddy wagon, pulling their batons out menacingly, and once again using their cars to push people out of the street. The police were able to get everyone back on the sidewalk. At this point, a decision was made to stay on the sidewalk and obey the traffic signals. The march was still successful in blocking traffic, as the police walked in oncoming traffic while following marchers to the SEI. We turned left up Craig Street, went all the way to 5th Avenue, and turned left. We arrived at the SEI, and stood outside the building, chanting. The marchers then decided to cross the street and stand on the steps of the St. Paul church. .
The police formed a line in the middle of the street facing the protestors, accusing the marchers of blocking traffic when they were the ones really doing so. People were chanting, "What's the solution? People's Revolution! What's the reaction? DIRECT ACTION!" People also began to taunt the police about blocking traffic and their aggressive tactics. Marchers chanted at police "Dance, dance! We want to see the po-lice dance!" and "Move po-po! Get out the way, get out the way! Pigs, get out the way!" A woman on a bicycle, who had acted as a scout throughout the entire day, confronted the police about their batons and attempts at intimidation. They told her the marchers could not block traffic, to which she replied that at that point, it was only them, not the protestors, who were blocking traffic. She said they should disperse, and was told to get out of the street. She repeated that it was them blocking traffic, and also that she was on a bike, and was supposed to be in the street, not the sidewalk. At this point, the cops started putting their batons away and the commanding officer came down the line and said to wrap things up. All of the police got back into their cars and left the area. We were victorious in our dance-off with police, seeing as the protestors were the only ones remaining outside of the SEI.
Most people dispersed at this point, but some people decided to continue marching, and planned on returning to the area around the Petersen Events Center.



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tactics
by - Monday, Mar. 03, 2003 at 2:50 AM

Good account. Just some clarification on some tactical issues.

POG people made the call to take things to the Cathedral Lawn so that those who wanted to get out could do so safely. The left people were trying to take to get to SEI would have taken us through an alley that was small with no possible escape routes. Before people had actually entered it there was already a cop car at the end of the alley and there were enough cops at the end of Bellefield to come in behind us. It seemed a real possibility that the police would be able to trap the march if they choose to do so. University property is a relatively safe location for a number of reasons. The fact that Pittsburgh police wouldn't follow the march onto school property was the critical one for creating a safe environment to leave.

We fully supported the decision of many to continue marching but no longer felt there were the numbers to avoid arrests. In the end it all worked out. good job you all. See you on the 16th!!!

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Great Event
by Sam Monday, Mar. 03, 2003 at 8:57 AM

It was very cool to see so many people from all walks of life doing CD.

I only wish we could get something similar to happen when Pitt isn't on spring break, and on a Friday or Saturday, when there are lots of people around.

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Some comments
by Junkyard Monday, Mar. 03, 2003 at 2:22 PM

I was one of the people involved in writing this report. I just wanted to say that POG did a good job organizing for the breakaway/unpermitted march, and were great people to work with on the streets. I also respect the fact that they chose to disperse, and advised others to do so, but did not attempt to disperse the entire march. They were fully supportive of people continuing on, and some individuals from POG even choose to continue on to the SEI with us.

In terms of the first comments, I just wanted to add my own thoughts. If we had made that left, we had have been facing one police car barricading the street. Instead, we argued about where to go, and 5 or 6 police cars and some other vehicles started coming up the main street we were on right towards us. While I had issue with that decision, I think the idea of going on to campus was a good one. However, I would like to point out that several police officers did follow us on to campus, past the Cathedral and back down onto Forbes (which was one of the many reasons we kept marching - there was no where to go and disperse at that point because they were so many cops all around)

Thanks again to POG for organizing the march, and props to everyone who came out and made it a great success!

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More Public Adulation
by Another Pogger Monday, Mar. 03, 2003 at 5:02 PM

Great article, you guys rock!

I just wanted to use this comment section as a thank you card:

Thank you to the Thomas Merton Center for letting us use the PA system and all the publicity help.

Thank you to CEASE! and Project 1877 for helping us make drums.

Thank you to the great lineup of speakers for preparing fantastic speeches.

Thank you to Anne Feeney and Chris Chandler for performing such great music and scheduling us in during your national tour.

Thank you to Anti-War Committee for passing out our fliers.

Thank you to ARA and RAG for being so damn nuts.

Thanks to everyone who marched through some chilly weather and chilling moments. See you at Flagstaff Hill!

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One more thankyou
by AWC Pgh Tuesday, Mar. 04, 2003 at 12:29 AM

I also want to thank everyone involved with Pittsburgh Indy Media for providing this forum! This is a really valuable service I have come to depend on for both info and feedback.

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A good demostration
by nose Tuesday, Mar. 04, 2003 at 3:19 PM

Good speakers, good rowdy march.Just two suggestions.The call for the march could have been
posted earlier with a clearer headline.I'm sure some people skipped "pog says war sux" and demonstrate
March 2nd would have been to the point.

Second, a few people started shouting back at hecklers,which is unproductive.Don't let them get to you.

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Fuck hecklers
by RAGer Wednesday, Mar. 05, 2003 at 12:13 PM

I was yelling at hecklers as much as possible. It is fun. A bunch of assholes think they can come to our shit and yell at a bunch of "hippies." We like to show them different and defend our march and our comrades from their bullshit. I think it is important to let people know we are not a movement to be fucked with. We also need to keep our eye on them in case they think they can roll up on the march and physically confrot people. SO yeah, maybe its not the most productive thang to do but I have fun and I will keep doing it.

To the hecklers on the eight story window, "Jump Jump" to that dude wearing the arab costume and the "kill me" sign we say "okay."

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This is a prime example...
by JonUs Thursday, Mar. 06, 2003 at 12:37 AM

Rager's post above is a perfect example of why the society you all seem will never be accomplished. Do you see the anger and hate in his post..

JonUs

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fuck it, dude. lets go bowling
by walter Thursday, Mar. 06, 2003 at 1:12 AM

anger and hate are emotions that are a part of human nature and no political system will ever get rid of either one. so i really see no substance in your argument. i dont think i've met an anarchist that advocated a complete utopia from which all anger, hate, and violence is abolished. we only offer a society in which people are, hopefully, better able to deal with such emotions and actions.

to directly address the heckling of hecklers, i dont see anything wrong with it. why should we just shrug off insults? if somebody puts forth an argument against us, doesnt it make sense to voice a counter-argument?

and yes, anarchists are angry. when you see all the exploitation and injustice in capitalist society, it's hard to be happy and complacent.

love.r@g.xoxoxo

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honestly.
by JonUs Thursday, Mar. 06, 2003 at 10:26 AM

"we only offer a society in which people are, hopefully, better able to deal with such emotions and actions. "

How would people be better able to deal with these emotions? A more Faith centered life? How do you think this is possible?

JonUs

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new society
by RAGer Thursday, Mar. 06, 2003 at 11:18 AM

We would have a society that better deals with these things because we will deal with each other on an equal level rather then appealing to some unjust "higher" authority to dole out punishment or reward for "crimes." Once hierarchy and authority are gone then people can begin to see each other as what we are. Humans who are different and similar and beutiful. Peace

ANd yeah, I am pissed off and no I am not going to let a bunch of assholes yell at me without replying to their insults. That is just self defense.

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What�s your point?
by Joe Thursday, Mar. 06, 2003 at 9:20 PM

After reading the article on the recent march, as well as the follow-up posts, I can�t help but think that the focus of the march was to fuck with the police and cause disruption and inconvenience for others. Nothing in the article mentioned the war, arguments against it, etc. It was self congratulatory bullshit about march strategy and how clever you all are. It seems like this is the main focus of your entire movement. Calling the police pigs is just one of the most obvious examples of your desperate desire to mimic the sixties protesters. I don�t have a problem with your message (or what I assume your message to be) I�m just not sure that you are communicating that message very well. Maybe that�s because you either a) don�t know what you are trying to say, b) you can�t back up your position with reasoned argument so you resort to emotional pleas and witty chants, or c) you are just more interested in causing mayhem and having fun, and the war provides a convenient excuse to do so. Pick one.

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dont you eat that yellow snow
by frank zappa Friday, Mar. 07, 2003 at 1:29 AM

it is a report on what happened at the march. if we had intended to put forward arguments against war, we would have titled the article differently.

love.r@g.xoxoxo

ps. if reasoned arguments are what you want, i would be more than happy to supply them.
or, you could save some time and just go to zmag.org infoshop.org or other articles on indymedia.

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i gotta have more cowbell
by gene Friday, Mar. 07, 2003 at 1:54 AM

"How would people be better able to deal with these emotions? A more Faith centered life?"

of course. because, as we all know, religion offers the only way to deal with your emotions.

in a society of small, egalitarian municipalities in which there is no hierarchy or competition, people would probably be more civil with each other. but, it's late and i dont feel like typing a bunch of theory. so...

an example would be the dobe !kung (bushmen of the kalahari). the !kung live in small egalitarian tribes with little or no hierarchy (at least at the time of the study, when contact with western technology was minimal). when a disagreement arose, the tribe would gather and discuss it until an agreement was reached by both sides. on the rare occasion that there was homocide, the guilty party was banished for, i believe, seven years.

love.r@g.xoxoxo

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Hey Joe
by Basketball Fan for Peace Friday, Mar. 07, 2003 at 1:51 PM

If you wanted to hear an argument against the war, you could have attended the rally beforehand. The Veteran for Peace did a great job explaining exactly what you feel was missing from the demonstration. Hope to see you at the rally on the 16th, where several more speakers will lay out why this war is a bad idea.

Isn't it awesome that Pitt won, despite the traffic congestion? Its like all of Pittsburgh had a good day, except those excited to bomb arab children that is!!

Peace, and Go Panthers!

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Gene
by JonUs Saturday, Mar. 08, 2003 at 2:34 PM

"in a society of small, egalitarian municipalities in which there is no hierarchy or competition, people would probably be more civil with each other. but, it's late and i dont feel like typing a bunch of theory. so"

The problem with this is Pittsburgh is not small, For that matter neither is New York or Albuquerque(Where I currently live). In small groups you can get just about anything to work. The problems come in when as the population expands. Yet again your "theories" just will not hold up.

JonUs

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by -- Saturday, Mar. 08, 2003 at 3:22 PM

JonUs,

I'd encourage you to read as you do not seem to have a working knowledge of Municipalism. A good place to start on all of these "theories" that confuse you would be the anarchist faq at http://www.infoshop.org/faq/index.html
Until you have some vague notion of these admittedly complex ideas it is pretty pointless to discuss them in a forum such as this. There is too much information. Asking questions like well how will people deal with murder is totally valid but this type of forum is not conducive to those questions. I doubt most people have the time or energy to educate you on the underlying theories. It's not possible to discuss things on which you have no real understanding or desire to learn. Additionally, your agenda seems to be to malign and discredit those with opinions not your own. You do not seem interested in a honest dialogue, but rather in "scoring" debating points by showing how much smarter you are then everyone else. Games of intellectual masturbation might be fun, but they are non-productive.

The tactic that you use- retorting with a well what would you do in this situation. etc is a very common one used to avoid real discussion. You can continue to do that over and over and over again. Well how would you deal with murder, where will health care come from, what about blank, etc. It's the same thing right wingers do on TV. When things are reduced to sound bytes there is an inherent advantage in arguing those types of perspectives because they are prefaced on underlying assumptions society has instilled in people. If Noam Chomsky goes on TV and tries to explain how the US Government is the worst purveyor of terrorism he's going to need a lot of time to do it because it questions peoples basic assumptions. It doesn't mean he can't (read his books, manufactoring consent, etc) it just means mediums like TV make that very difficult. To do so he needs to educate the majority of the audience any time he says something. Allende, Shah of Iran, etc all take more time to explain what he is referencing before people can see connections. This is largely a byproduct of the United States Mass media and education system. When everything is reduced to rhetoric even the ignorent can appear enlightened. Most people have a basic idea of how society currently functions. They know where services come from and the basic economic model.
Anyway, I think you understand what I'm saying but I'm tired of typing.

You want to debate things some things with me?
How do you feel about the US backed overthrow of Allende in Chile? Do you agree with Clintons missile strike on Sudan? Was that a war crime?
Why should be the worlds response to Isreal flouting UN resolutions?
How should the world respond to our continued lone vetoes of UN resolutions on Isreal?
What's your opinion on US bugging of Security Council members? Specifically the NSA related memo that was leaked?
How would you respond to accusations that the US was and is deliberately lying about Iraq's nuclear program. Specifically reference the revealation that the key source we have on all this (Saddams son who defected, gave massive amounts of info, then returned to Iraq and was killed) indicated Iraq abandoned it's program and destroyed most of it's stockes of banned weapons?

How do you feel about the following articles? Can you refute them?
UN Inspectors Say US Relied on Forged Reports of Iraq Nuclear Efforts http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0308-06.htm
Afghan Prisoners Beaten to Death at US Military Interrogation Base
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0307-04.htm
PDF dispelling Iraq involvement with 911 http://www.zmag.org/pdf/none_brochure.pdf
13 myths on the Iraq war http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=3192

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hmm
by Evan N Saturday, Mar. 08, 2003 at 5:43 PM

Okay when the population expands there must be a way to preserve the egalitarian nature that small tribal communities have had since the beginning of time right? Well Council Communism is your answer buddy. Utilizing the means of production on a local level first will make sure people get what they need before its shipped off. Production for USE, not for profit. This will also make direct democracy a more tangible thing that can be accomplished.

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