The Nazi 's didn 't lose the war, they just had to move. : Pittsburgh Indymedia

The Nazi's didn't lose the war, they just had to move.
by Never Again Monday, Apr. 14, 2003 at 8:17 PM

After the CIA's Project Paperclip, under Harry Trumen, there are plenty of frightening similarities that have grown increasingly more obvious between the United States and Nazi Germany, especially now that the U.S. won victory in World War III (the Cold War) and is now the remaining empire.

First watch this video about the link between the MK-ULTRA experiments by the CIA in the 1960's and Project Paperclip when the CIA imported a bunch of Nazi scientists and propagandists. Notice they studied all the drugs on the streets today, and for psychological warfare purposes, and notice the effect these drugs have as a whole on current society. Seems to fit their aims perfectly. Then consider the fact that a bunch of Nazi's where brought over here, and consider what Nazism is.

Nationalist Socialism is an odd and confusing mix of left-like social reforms and ultra-right policy and world view. Look at what the Project for the New American Century has on it's website as it's statement of principles. It is an odd and confusing perspective of "liberal" values and principles (market liberal only), and a Hawkish, xenophobic and paranoid world view that leads to policy that sets ultimatums for the whole Earth and aims to use military force and economic domination to force all human beings on Planet Earth, each individually and everyone as a whole, to live the way Americans have been portrayed as living (it is a world view forced on Americans as well), and to view the world and life in the same way, to build their infastructure the same way, to act, talk, think, behave, all the same way as Americans are portrayed to. So, instead of the doctrine of "Aryan Racial Superiority," it is "American Lifstyle Superiority." They just try to make it look good by calling it "liberal and democratic." An odd mix of Left and Right, designed to put one class in the position of "the Ultimate Highground," as military heads call it.

First watch GNN's "Most Dangerous Game," about Project Paperclip and MK-ULTRA.
http://http.dvlabs.com/gnn/asx/gnn/tmdg_bb.asx

If that link doesn't work try this one
http://www.guerrillanews.com/dangerous

Then take a look at this perspective of the "War on People," from RM-IMC.
http://rockymountain.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5722&group=webcast

Then take a look at the Project for the New American Century.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Organize!

www.infoshop.org

Quick !
by .......... Tuesday, Apr. 15, 2003 at 1:53 PM

Quick! somebody call Scully and Mulder !!

Raise High the Flag
by Prodigal Yunzer Tuesday, Apr. 15, 2003 at 2:44 PM

the ranks are closed and tight
Bush Troopers march
With firm and steady step
Souls of our comrades
killed by Arab terror
Are with us now, and march along in step!

STOMP STOMP

This is the final bugle call to arms
Already we are set and ready for the fight
Soon Old Glory will wave
O'er every single street
Enslavement ends
When soon we set things right.

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by . Tuesday, Apr. 15, 2003 at 7:41 PM

"Never again" is right. Do some research on MK-Ultra and what happened to the nazi scientists after world war 2. They came over to America to use the same mind control technology they used in Nazi germany. Nazis were responsible for sodium flouride being added to drinking water. They did it in the concentration camps, and it wasn't to make sure their prisoners had healthy teeth! Why don't you read about it before you make a decision. there's a lot out there.

I may be way off here, but didn't MK-ULTRA take place LONG after the "Nazis" got here? I also believe flouride was added to the drinking water (or had been started to) long before WW2 even started.

Of course all of this is depends on the completely unproven assumption that Nazis left Germany and came to the US. Considering we were helping to hunt them down and kill them I somehow doubt they'd pick us to come visit.

Anyway, this is seriously paranoid shit. Go seek help, before the voices become too loud to drown out .

did you read
by Jani Wednesday, Apr. 16, 2003 at 5:48 PM

Wel,l, did you read up on it, or just automatically consider it a conspiracy theory? One way thought is stopped is by not even considering something could be true without researching it first.

ANd another ..
by Svengali Wednesday, Apr. 16, 2003 at 5:51 PM

that thought is stop is by chasing down stupid ideas with useless research of wild goose chase conspiracy theories.

ok, keep living a lie
by Jani Wednesday, Apr. 16, 2003 at 6:17 PM

Do you agree with me on one point? That the media and the education system is controlled by a few wealthy people up top who are in it for their own interests and are trying to control the way we think? I mean just look at their "unbiased" reporting of the events lately (and all throughout media history). Look at commercials and how there are subliminal messages rampant throughout. I can point you to a ton of books and websites about that topic. I can point out quite a few mag ads and commercials that are so blatantly subliminal. And read up on Wlat Diisney films. It was even in the news that Walt Disney puts in pictures of nakes women, SEX words, the penis, etc in their movies for children. So many have been pointed out that its not pranksters. Look at liquor ads.
Ok, well, if you realize this, and most people do, even "sane" people, then you can see that this IS mind control.
Do you know history is wrong? It is always slanted towards those who are in power. Look at Nazi propaganda... then look at a child's school history book. Chances are, this war will go into the history books as America's "Operation Iraqi freedom" What a load of shit. There will be no mention that there were no WMD, or that US backed Saddam while he was carrying out his worst atrocities.
Now do you believe that at least SOME of those conspiracies could be true? Of course some of them are wild goose chases, but not ALL of them. Some of them have a lot of evidence backing them, and you should look into them. What do you lose? A few hours watching "Survivor?"

Ok....
by I'm not crazy. Thursday, Apr. 17, 2003 at 4:07 PM

Let me get this straight. Our water is flouridated by some ultra secret cabal of Nazi's interested in controlling our minds so we watch more Disney movies...Wow. Our educational system has truly failed you.

no
by Jani Thursday, Apr. 17, 2003 at 11:30 PM

NO asshole. Forget it. Go watch Friends and jack off to American Idol.

Wow !
by ...... Friday, Apr. 18, 2003 at 4:43 PM

Geez, that's a crude, hateful response. I guess that's the best we can expect from a poorly educated borderline schizophrenic. Please see a mental health professional, it's possible that you may be retarded.

not poorly educated
by Jani Friday, Apr. 18, 2003 at 10:37 PM

I am not poorly educated.. I have a lot of education actually, probably more than you.
I do get frustrated, most people do, when others are close minded. I'll just keep my ideas to myself. And you can keep your sad version of reality to YOURself. You do not seem intelligent to me when you bring up big words from your intro to Psych class you took freshman year.
Why bother to throw arguements and insults back and forth to each other, when we share different versions of reality? Everyone shares different versions of reality, every culture creates a norm or acceptable "truth"
So, labeling me with a vague all-encompassing term used to explain everyone away who doesn't fit into the "normal" perspective, is seen as crazy, labeled "borderline" or "schizo" and given medicine and told to shut up. (And no that doesn't explain me AT ALL).
Go back to your intro to psych class and read up on all the labels so you can go around labeling everyone you see who you can't deal with. Don't worry, I was there, I am a college grad. I took the same classes as you. So don't pre-view me as a dumb, paranoid, uneducated, "borderline psycho", gullible, conspiracy theory chaser. And I won't label you as a smart -ass, know-it-all big shot, who's version of reality is told to him/her by someone else, who does NOT think for him/her self, who has a close-mind, and who's idea of a good time is watching "Survivor" or getting drunk every weekend and getting attention from the other sex.

More wow !
by ..... Saturday, Apr. 19, 2003 at 2:10 PM

Put a little more tinfoil in your hat, and go back to writing your Oliver Stone fan letter... Your petty jibes ( I read far too much, in several different languages, to watch television...) only reinforce my belief that you are quite possibly insane. At the very least, you exhibit very low intelligence. Your posts show that you may be only slightly smarter than a chimp, maybe a dolphin. Jani, please seek treatment for your psychological problems--there are respected professionals who can help you. They can test you for your intellectual capabilities and also determine if you are suffering from a treatable mental illness. If you don't act on this, you may end up living as a crazy loner with 40 cats or as a schizo sniper, killing innocents out of irrational fear.

Dude's right .
by spoonie Saturday, Apr. 19, 2003 at 2:17 PM

Dude's right. Jani's a dangerous loon.

gee, you are so right
by Jani Saturday, Apr. 19, 2003 at 5:09 PM

Gee, you are so right . I completely agree with you. I must be completely insane and have the intelligence of a dolphin. Thank you for clarifying my life for me. I needed someone like you with your own "petty jibes" to make me understand who I am. I don't want to turn into a crazy old woman with 40 cats named Fluffy, or into a "soccer mom serial killer" so I am going to jump off a bridge tonight. Then the world can go back to their shallow existences...
Thanks again!

Jani...
by spoonie Sunday, Apr. 20, 2003 at 1:48 PM

I hope that tonight's venture will be a success !

Don't Jump JANI
by Prodigal Yunzer Monday, Apr. 21, 2003 at 10:59 AM

There's FLUORIDE in the 3 Rivers!!!!!

You are all Paranoid Morons...
by All Seeing Eye Wednesday, Dec. 17, 2003 at 9:31 PM

...to think that Nazism has taken a "new face" in the Americas.

While I don't doubt certain aspects of Nazism survived with the scientists who went east and west, it is in the LIBERALS that they survived.

After all, Nazism was a Liberal movement, to drastically alter "Germany" from what it was for nearly 1000 years, to what it shall be for the "Next 1000 years".

Don't any of you find it odd, that the Nazis were the first to perform massive Abortion Experiments, and that the largest producer abortion drugs and equipment, is a subsidiary of the company that produced gas for the Death Camps, and that at that time was the leading experimental company for abortions.

Nazis wanted to control life and death in every aspect to create their perfect humans, and one great way was to see that unwanteds were never even born.

Ironically it is very difficult to find the information on which Nazi Doctors were given political assylum after the war.

But the real threat is not liberals in the USA, or rightists or whoever...it is the fundamentalist movements within Islam now.

Do your history research, and it mirrors almost exactly the time of Rome and Israel in 0-100 AD.

We certainly won't prevent history from repeating itself if you're so busy trying to find some way to destroy Bush or the Republican Party or western values.

You are all Paranoid Morons...
by All Seeing Eye Wednesday, Dec. 17, 2003 at 9:33 PM

Bush Panzer Arabia Korps
by Prodigal Abteilungsmann Tuesday, Jan. 06, 2004 at 12:16 PM

Wohlan! The desert sand
And scorching fire of the sun
Now a large chase arises
with the loud call of "Hai la li!"

The hunters, those are we
In the far hunting ground
The Bush Korps in Arabia
Hai Ya! Hai ya safari!

And though still so wildly
the Islamic lion roars
It can't harm you with a toothless muzzle
We hunt it to its death!
Because the hunters those are we
In this far hunting ground
The Bush Korps in Arabia
Hai Ya! Hai Ya Safari!

Our homeland is so far
and the controversy is hot
Wer strike wherever we meet the Islamist
And send him to Paradise.

The winners, those are we
in the farthest reaches of the world!
The Bush Korps in Arabia
Hai Ya! Hai Ya Safari!

http://www.ingeb.org/Lieder/wohlandu.html

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