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Palabuse
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 3:52 AM
How Arafat cares about Children
How Arafat cares about Children
Arafat begins fighting Terror
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 3:54 AM
Arafat begins fighting Terror
Difference between Israeli and Palestinian
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 3:55 AM
Difference between Israeli and Palestinian
How Palestinians care about there children.
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 3:57 AM
How Palestinians care about there children.
How Palestinian mothers care about there children.
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 3:59 AM
How Palestinian mothers care about there children.
How the Palestinians care about there little girls.
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 4:01 AM
How the Palestinians care about there little girls
Palestinians are sadists.
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 4:02 AM
Palestinians are sadists.
More Palestinian child abuse
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 4:05 AM
More Palestinian child abuse.
What happens when you criticize Arafat?
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 4:09 AM
What happens when you criticize Arafat?
An end to suicide bombing
by Solomon
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 8:30 AM
Give the PA the same exact military hardware and funding funding equal to what US taxpayers give to prop up the mythological vanity state of Israel. Quit arming and funding the Israelis. Arafat could then attack the Planet Hollywood in Tel Aviv from the comfort and safety of his own Apache attack helicopter. Or the settlers could travel in wagon trains and throw the rocks back at the Palestinians, and if they wanted to tear down houses, they would have to use crowbars. It's all bullshit tribal warfare.
Any child with any flag is disgusting. Add fake bomb and it just gets worse, but no worse the the militaristic Easter baskets that they sold in US K-Marts. Where are the America kids dressed like retail security, I mean "suppoted troops". Better yet, where are the Israel kids in their blue Mosaad berets?
Like the Anglo-American morons who defend the occupation of Ireland, to the Sino-Americans who defend the occupation of Tibet, your bias is very apparent. You want those children dead, you just don't want them to take anybody with them.
Jeff, put your dual citizenship where your moutn is, and I don't don't make taking advantage of extradition and banking laws in setting up an ecstacy ring, go kill those kids yourself.
Response to Solomon
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 9:11 AM
The fact is that this conflict is EXISTENTIAL- NOT TERRITORIAL. The Arabs dont accept Israel within ANY borders.
THIS is why there was no peace from 48 to 67, or why Arafat didn't sign on the dotted line at Camp David and Taba
I have 2 words for you. Palestinian Rejectionism: Take it from there.
This could have been the third year of a prospering new Palestinian state. Instead, they went to war against Israel. Count the dead, injured and destroyed on both sides. All this suffering because Arafat and the Palestinians cant accept Israel existence.
Camp David failed for one reason.
The real reason Arafat didn’t want to make peace at Camp David. Arafat felt having his own state meant nothing to him, compared to the thrill of killing Jews.
The PLO assumed that Israeli society couldn't tolerate a conflict, where Israeli civilians were murdered on a daily level; that Israel was weak- that they would capitulate to Arab terror.
Now, what has Sharon done? He fought back on THEIR terms. The World reacts to Jews defending themselves, as though the Palestinian terrorists are the victims.
I say to you. "Would you tolerate a neighbor orchestrating, funding, and blessing homicide murderers targeting your civilian population?
Would you tolerate a situation in which women and children were being blown to pieces in your cafes, pizzeria's and shopping centers?
Would you tolerate street side celebrations by your neighbors, frequently displayed on your TV screens, rejoicing at the carnage that they had inflicted on your people?"
The Palestinians insisted on war.
The Israelis have bent over backwards to try to accomodate the Palestinians including the best deal ever offered to Arafat by the Israelis during the Clinton Administration. All olive branch offered by the Israelis have met with more and more suicide (homicide) attacks.
Arafat and his henchmen prefer to keep his position as head terrorist and dictator in order to keep "his" people poor, miserable and angry and to insure his swiss bank account stays fat with EU $$ - sad but true. There is no democracy anywhere in the Arab world and this is equally true for those civilians under the PA control. Until the Jew hating idiots on the left understand, that the Arabs want to destroy Israel and Israel doesn't want to be destroyed.
I do not blame the Israelis at all. If you suffered a 9-11 attack on an almost daily basis like the Israelis do, at some point you will not be so agreeable, diplomatic or willing to offer a olive branch. The onus is on the Palestinians to stop killing Israeli civilians. But this will never happen, because Arafat is obsessed with implementing his phase by phase plan to destroy Israel.
"In October of 2000, with the help of Clinton, Israel offered Arafat an independent Palestinian State, 97% of the West Bank all of Gaza, Arab sections of Jerusalem and 3 percent of Israel. Arafat refused and the Palestinians started their homicide/suicide bombings and their latest attempt to destroy Israel."
In fact, the Palestinians broke the Oslo Accords precisely because of Israeli generosity, because the government of Ehud Barak offered to meet 100 percent of their demands, including turning over half of Jerusalem to their control -- a possibility once considered unthinkable.
Barak offered the Palestinians a state, something no Arab country ever did. Barak did this, even though the Palestinians never in history controlled these lands. These concessions confronted Arafat with the one outcome he did not want: Peace with Israel. Peace without the destruction of the "Jewish Entity.
I read something that 1999 was the only year that no Israeli civilians were killed by Arab terrorists in Israel. In that year, 99 percent of Palestinians were living under Arafat's rule. Not one time did Israel go in any Palestinian city in 1999. This is not to hard to figure out. Israel wouldn't go in one Palestinian city if the Palestinians stop killing Israeli civilians. Everytime Israel leaves a Palestinian city, what happens, the Palestinians resume terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians. This forces Israel to go back in these cities.
Israel withdrew ELEVEN times from the West Bank to effect a cease-fire. Each time Israel was attacked by suicide bombers who massacred Israeli civilians in Israel. The Palestinian Authority failed to arrest them, and instead paid their families awards. Arafat even named streets after them as "martyrs". How can anyone take seriously, Arab leaders that encourage terror attacks against civilians?
You see, when someone wants to destroy you and kill your civilians. When you have 70 percent of Arabs who support homicide bombers against Israeli civilians. When you have Palestinian terrorists groups that refuse to sign an agreement, not to target Israeli woman and children. What do you expect Israel to do? When you hear about all the Israeli civilians being massacred. Thats only the Palestinian terrorist atrocities that got through. You know how many bus massacres, cafe massacres, Israeli security forces prevented.
When Israel was making peace with Egypt. How many times did Israeli soldiers attack Egypt? Zero Times.
When Israel was making peace with King Hussein. How many times did Israel attack Jordan? Zero times.
They didn't attack them, because Egyptians and Jordanians were murdering Israeli woman and children, like Palestinian terrorists are. I'll ask if, if everytime Israel leaves a Palestinian city and the second they leave, Palestinian terrorists from the city then massacre Israeli civilians. What do you expect Israel to do?
If you dont know, its Palestinian terrorism which is forcing Israel back in Judea and Samaria.
The Israeli military goes into a Palestinian village to rootout terrorists and to attempt to stop future terrorist attacks
There is a big difference in initiating violence and reacting to it. The vast majority of the violence and killings have been initiated by the Arabs. If the Arabs (Palestinians) would not initiate violence, the Israelis would not react with violence. Now, is that so hard to see or understand?
Israel targets Palestinians terrorists who send homicide bombers and gunman, who go into Israeli college cafeterias, night clubs, restaurants, felafel stands, buses, and hotel lobbies full civilians, and deliberately massacre hundreds of innocent Israeli civilians.
I saw this from 2 months ago, which explains exactly what i'm talking about.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell...d=1043152787039
Several Palestinian officials from different groups have already arrived in Cairo for the conference. PA officials said the conference was expected to end in failure after most of the Palestinian groups announced that they would not halt their attacks against civilians inside Israel.
Can you imagine that, these Palestinians wont sign an agreement not to target woman and children in Israel. You couldn't find me a Hindu, Budhish, Jewish or Christian leader that wouldn't sign an agreement not to target innocent civilians. Only the murderous Arabs wont sign it.
Nothing will change for the Palestinians, because its not about their state its about destroying Israel. The Pals live in bad conditions, because their leaders keep them in it, not because of Israel. Its not in the Pal leaders best interest, to normalize life for their people. If they did, there would be no need for them.
This is what the Palestinians want.
Yasser Arafat translated in Arabic, in a speech he made in Sweden in 1996. Our goal is the total destruction of Israel. "You understand that we plan to eliminate the State of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian State. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion; Jews will not want to live among us Arabs!"
http://www.iris.org.il/quotes/stockhlm.htm
Hamas chief Sheikh Ahmed Yassin explains that Palestinian terrorism will in the end destroy Israel and that the Islamic state of Palestine will be built on the ruins of Israel in 2027.
In 1974, Arafat adopted his phase by phase plan at the PLO's National Council at its session in Cairo during June 1-8, 1974.
Prior to the 1974 meeting, the PLO's position was that it would never accept anything but the immediate destruction of Israel.
At the 1974 meeting, the PLO decided to seek Israel's destruction in phases, by first establishing a small PLO state, then later seeking to conquer the rest of Israel. Point #2 of its 10-point 1974 platform declared that the PLO should create "a national, independent fighting authority on every part of the Palestinian land to be liberated." Point #8 explains that the "the Palestine national entity, after it comes into existence," will seek "to complete the liberation of the entire Palestinian soil."
In the Palestinian Arab newspaper Al Quds on May 10, 2000, Arafat was asked:
"Do you feel sometimes that you made a mistake in agreeing to Oslo?"
Arafat replied: - his peace with Israel is based on the Hudaybiyah accord made by Mohammed.
Hudaybiyah is a small oasis between Mecca and Medina where Mohammed fought a battle in the early years of Islam. When he saw he was fighting a losing battle, Mohammed signed a strategic 10-year peace agreement with the Quraish tribe who lived in Mecca.
Two years later, when his forces were stronger, Muhammad invaded and destroyed the Quraish tribe. Arafat in 2001 justified the slaughter by saying, Muhammed�s peace treaty was only a "Lesser Value Agreement" because he had agreed to sign the treaty without the words.
Arafat referred to this principle in Islam known as Takiya, the right to fake peace when you are weak for the purposes of defeating your enemy when you are stronger.
On the same day in 1993 on which Yasser Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn, he spoke the following words on Jordan TV:
"Since we cannot defeat Israel in war we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."
Abdul Aziz Shaheen, the PA's Minister of Supplies, told the official PA newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida on January 4, 2000:
"The Oslo accord was a preface for the Palestinian Authority and the Palestinian Authority will be a preface for the Palestinian state which, in its turn, will be a preface for the liberation of the entire Palestinian land."
The late Faisal Husseini, Arafat's Jerusalem representative, a man who was cultured, sophisticated and considered the most moderate of all the Palestinians, shortly before his death on May 31, 2001, expressed his true feelings in an interview with the popular Egyptian newspaper el Arav.
Husseini said: "We must distinguish the strategies and long-term goals from the political-phased goals which we are compelled to accept due to international pressures." But the "ultimate goal is the liberation of all of historical Palestine."
Explicitly he said: "Oslo has to be viewed as a Trojan Horse."
He even added and clarified that it is the obligation of all the Palestinian forces and factions to see the Oslo Accords as "temporary" steps to Israel's destruction.
Sheikh Muhammed Siyam, a Hamas military leader said this. "I've been told to restrict or restrain what I say. I hope no one is recording me or taking any pictures, as none are allowed, because I'm going to speak the truth to you," Siyam reportedly said at the conference. "It's simple. Finish off the Israelis. Kill them all! Exterminate them! No peace ever! Do not bother to talk politics." http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...20601holy.story
Solomon
by Jeff
Wednesday, May. 14, 2003 at 9:18 AM
Solomon, Israel only uses Helicopters after Palestinian suicide bombers massacre Israeli woman and children. The Helicopters are used in a limited contrained way. There only used to target the Palestinian terrorists behind the slaughter of Israeli civilians. They are not used to target civilians, even though 80 percent of Palestinians support homicide massacres against Israeli civilians. If Israel wanted, they could carpet bomb the West Bank.
If the Palestinians had tanks or planes, they would use these tanks and planes only to murder civilians. The Tanks and Planes would be used to target civilian areas. It doesn't matter what weapons the Palestinians have, they would use them only to massacre innocent civilians. The Palestinians would also use Planes as suicide missions, exactly as there Arab cousins did on Sep 11th
DEMO-FADA
by Prodigal Yunzer
Thursday, May. 15, 2003 at 9:45 AM
When will Democrats begin these tactics? They are running away in Texas now. I hope to see exploding Dems sometime soon.
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