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A Society of Peace That Wants THis For Its Children?
by Yassar Datsmibebe Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 7:05 AM

An Israeli jeep is parked just behind the torn body of a teenage Palestinian suicide bomber who blew himself up in the West Bank village of Azun. The Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility in a phone call to AFP and named the bomber as Sabih Abu Al-Saoud.(AFP/Bashar Nazal)

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I thought showing photos of dead Muslims was supposed to be outrageously offensive to Islam? I guess that�s only when it�s done by infidels. http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=7642

This is what the Palestinians and other radical (and even not so radical) Arab organizations teach their children. This is what young Arabs are told to aspire to. This is what the PA and its affilaited terrorist organizations unashamedly claim proud responsibility for. And it is this senseless killing of Palestine's own children that America's left supports with its complicity and indifference.

This is not suicide out of despair, but suicide as a career choice for status and reward as told by the elders of that gang that wants to become a nation state, Plaestine. Look closely. Al Aqsa and Arafat can rejoice, together with the assembled masses in the streets of Palestine at the self-inflicted termination of the life of one of its own children. The only tears shed that day will be not for this poor unfortuante meat tool of the PA, but for the fact that he did not kill with himself anyone of the Jewish faith or Isreali nationality (which would include Arabs who do not subscribe to the murder and ignorance of Arafat's grand plans).

What future is there in being a Palestinian youth when your leaders desire this for you. What future is there for anyone when leaders who would allow and accept this are permitted to steer the ship of self-determination.

It is true: Only when the Arabs love there children more than they hate the Jews will there be even the opportunity for peace in the middle east.

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GAZA (Reuters) - A Palestinian teenage suicide bomber blew up near Israeli forces in the West Bank on Monday, killing no one but himself, hours after the militant group Hamas ruled out ceasing all attacks on Israelis under any future truce deal.

Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said security forces, acting on information about a planned suicide bombing inside Israel, raided the village of Azoun near the town of Qalqilya.

"The suicide bomber blew himself up next to an armored army vehicle and we have one slightly wounded soldier," Mofaz said in broadcast remarks.

Relatives identified the Palestinian as Sabi Abu Saoud, 17, from the West Bank city of Nablus and said he was a member of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, linked to the Fatah movement.

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All wars are bosses wars
by ditto Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 12:55 PM

All wars are bosses ...
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When you're alive a flag is used to shrinkwrap your brain and when you die they wrap your body in it, to paraphrase Ms. Roy.

Sharon, Arafat, Bush, Chirac, etc., cowardly proxy killers, all.

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So, just exaclty which
by Boss Hogg Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 1:24 PM

So, just exaclty whi...
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one of the "bosss" told that kid to go blow his own legs off? Was it Bush? No. Maybe it was Blair? No. Was it Sharon? No. Or maybe some other boss (like Arafat) sent some kid to blow that kid's legs off in the process of blowing himself to hell. That sounds far more likely.

Our (western) leaders do not send our military (let alone our civilian children) out for the purpose of killing themselves. Casualties and injury are a consequence of war. Our military and political leaders work tirelessly to avoid casualties and human loss (of both combatant and civilian). The terrorists, Arafat, Hamas and the rest of their ilk seek to maximize casualties of civilians without regard for the life of their own "troops."

In western military culture, an officer or leader who deliberately places the personnel under their command in harms way is guilty of a court marshallable offense, which depending on the severity of the loss incurred could be punishable by death. In Arab/Palestinian culture, the leader that places their charge in harms way (i.e. suicide attack) is praised. It is not an offense but is considered worthy of military and political honor.

Do not even attempt to equate the honor, duty and sacrifice of the western military with the foolish and senseless disposal of human life by the terrorist thugs of the middle east.

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well said, Boss Hogg
by ray charles Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 2:47 PM

But you do realize you addressed a brain dead bastard who masturbates to images of Arafat and bin Laden?

In one orifice and out the other....

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I'm not with you-I'm with the terrorists
by USS Liberty Sunday, Nov. 16, 2003 at 3:40 PM



In the UN, Arabs have the ultimate revenge over Israel
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11/17/03 | Barbara Amiel

A trapped bluebottle circled the conference room, flying lazily towards the tall windows through which New York's East River could be seen. It flew over the chair where the representative for the International Organisation for Migration sat fiddling with his UN, Japanese-made, ergonomically designed earpiece, passed over the African Union and Commonwealth Secretariat and settled somewhere by the Holy See's seat.

Outside, it was a cold New York day. Inside, where these members of the UN's Third Committee (Social, Humanitarian and Cultural matters) gathered, the room was bathed in a comfy buzz of wellbeing, engendered when like-minded people gather together.

The topic last week in Conference Room 1 of the UN was human rights in Burundi and the Democratic Republic of the Congo - a part of the world where human rights are fulfilled by simply waking up alive and where democratic republics are anything but.

The UN Special Rapporteur found no improvement in Burundi. Children were still being recruited as soliders; mass rape had increased and now was aimed at young boys as well as girls. The latter was "a new phenomenon", said Rapporteur Ms Keita-Bocoum.

In neighbouring Democratic Republic of the Congo, where three million people have died in the past five years of fighting, another UN Special Rapporteur described it as the "worst human rights situation in the world". She footnoted a special concern for the unlucky children named as "sorcerers", who were maimed or killed for their witchcraft.

It was business as usual. Before the early break for Ramadan, Burkina Faso, the Congo and Zimbabwe co-sponsored human rights resolutions. Sudan introduced one. The atmosphere remained clubby and cordial as the Ambassador of Israel came to the microphone to present a resolution on behalf of Israeli children.

Ambassadors don't normally present resolutions at committee level, but since Israel had not presented one since 1978 (and that was withdrawn after the Syrians tied its future to negotiations with the PLO), it was a bit of a first. The Israeli resolution was a mirror copy of one sponsored by Egypt and passed (88-4, 58 abstentions) in the General Assembly three weeks earlier, underlining the need to protect the rights of Palestinian children.

That resolution was a bit of a first, too: no other group of children had been singled out for protection by the UN - not the child soldiers in Burundi, not the raped and mutilated girls and boys of the Congo, nor children in any other of the world's impoverished or warring nations. By tacit agreement, children have always been considered universally at the UN.

The delegates were polite as Ambassador Dan Gillerman spoke. He asked for security for Israeli, Palestinian and all children of the world. He spoke of a "false reality" that pretends one side has a monopoly on victim status. He wished, he said, to prevent the blatant exercise of a double-standard in the UN.

He mentioned the deliberate bombing of discos, pizza parlours and school buses, almost exclusively used by children. When he finished, the session chairman did not ask the names of co-sponsors for the Israeli resolution. Because there were none.

A discussion followed. The Syrian delegate strenuously opposed assistance of Israeli children and said the resolution was procedurally wrong. The Palestinian Authority's lady complained that the Israelis had "copied" their resolution. The situation of Palestinian children was "unique" she said - which it may well be, since most children of the world are not used as human shields for terrorist camps or encouraged to be suicide bombers so their pictures can be put up in grocery stores as "martyrs".

It is as if British children in the Second World War had not been evacuated to the countryside but rather placed around the War Office and anti-aircraft embankments. Afterwards, the PA lady conferenced earnestly for 20 minutes with a French delegate over procedurally thwarting the Israeli resolution so it would not come to a vote. The bluebottle returned to the most heated part of the committee room.

The session ended with a report by the Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human Rights, John Dugard, on "human rights in the Palestinian territories since 1967". Mr Dugard, who had been a courageous campaigner against apartheid, missed out when jobs were given away in the new South Africa and lost election to the International Criminal Court. Without apartheid to fight, he has demonised Israel to fill the gap. This transference of all ills to Israel's doorstep is a psychiatric condition common in, though not confined to, members of the UN.

Down the hall, in Conference Room 2, the Second Committee (Economics and Finance) was discussing "the permanent sovereignty of the Palestinian people over their natural resources", or how to stop thuggish Israel looting them. The Fourth Committee (special Political and Decolonisation committee) regularly considers the atrocities of Israelis in their role as imperialist running dogs.

Unesco, Unicef and UNRWA spend much of their time visiting Israel and condemning it. The General Assembly, unable to pass a single resolution condemning Palestinian terrorism, routinely condemns Israel and calls emergency sessions especially for the purpose.

The reality of the Middle East is that the very existence of Israel is considered a nakba - a catastrophe. This being so, the Israeli Ambassador could present a resolution recommending all people be encouraged to breathe - and it would be unacceptable to that part of the world. Does the UN matter? Only insofar as the record matters. Certain things must be done not because they will make a difference but to set the record straight. This week, Third Committee delegates will consider deleting anti-Semitism from the new UNHCR resolution on racial and religious intolerance, thus giving new life to old canards.

The UN is not furnished luxuriously, but it is a congenial place. Sitting in one of its lounges, sipping an iced chai latte, one could see the irony of the situation. If the Arab world has any legitimate case against Israel, it is not the occupied territories, which are in Israeli hands only because of wars the Arabs launched. It is what they see as the initial injustice behind the Jewish state's founding.

The world's response to the Nazi holocaust and centuries of European persecution of Jews - including Tsarist-inspired pogroms and, indeed, French anti-Semitism, whose Dreyfus Affair inspired Theodor Herzl's Zionism - was to give away a slice of Arab Muslim land to the Jews. While one fully appreciates the Jews' historical and religious connection to the land of Zion, it must be said that insofar as the Arab case has any persuasive merit, it is on this initial point.

But the Arabs have had a great revenge. They have taken over the very body that was responsible for this - the United Nations - with the hope that the organisation that created the injustice may well be the instrument of its undoing. And that, as the bluebottle on the wall could tell you, is a story that has not unfolded yet.


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this is, like, really kewl, like....
by USS Liberty Tuesday, Nov. 18, 2003 at 12:59 PM

I don't like womyn, or minorities. I'm for Death. That's all I'm for. No wonder I hate America. I can't legally destroy a woman here. Down with Amelika!

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Woman Sentenced to 500 Lashes for Immoral Conduct ["Religion of Peace" Alert]
Arab News ^ | Nov. 18, 2003

JEDDAH, 18 November 2003 � A Jizan court has sentenced a young woman to 500 lashes for allegedly spending time alone with a young man and marrying him hours after divorcing her former husband, Al-Madinah reported on Sunday.

According to the court ruling, the groom will also get 500 lashes while the mazoun who married them will get 30 lashes for violating Shariah rules.

The woman was on bad terms with her former husband and entered into a romantic relationship with the young man. But under Shariah, she was required to wait for three months before marrying another man, the paper said.


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A Religion of Peace�
by USS Rebecca Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003 at 3:41 PM

A Religion of Peace�...
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"The Women" [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[3.85] "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."

[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given.you a clear authority.

The Dinner Table - [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

The Cattle - [6.146] And to those who were Jews We made unlawful every animal having claws, and of oxen and sheep We made unlawful to them the fat of both, except such as was on their backs or the entrails or what was mixed with bones: this was a punishment We gave them on account of their rebellion, and We are surely Truthful.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

The Congregation [62.6] Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful. (PLEASE COMMIT SUICIDE)

The Cow - [2.111] And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful.

The Dinner Table - The Dinner Table [5.14] And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.

[5.72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9: 5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85). It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5: 11), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28). It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193).

"Fight those who do not profess the true faith [ISLAM], till they pay the jiziya with the hand of humility." - Koran 9: 29

".... I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS], and smite all their finger tips of them [CUT OFF THEIR FINGERS]." - Koran 8: 12

"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." - Koran 9: 73

"When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS] and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly." - Koran 47: 4

"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom...." - Koran 5: 33-34

" Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued." - Koran 9: 29

"....the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures." - Koran 98: 1-8

"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'" - Koran 22: 19-22, 23

"And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high and would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds. " - Koran 31-37

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." - Koran, 5:33-34)

"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." - Koran, 8:37

The God of Israel has a Son - Jesus Christ of Nazareth; but Allah has no son according to the Koran

Therefore the Biblical Christian God of Israel is not Allah

"They say: Allah has taken a Son (to Himself)! Glory be to Him: he is the Self-sufficient: his is what is in the heavens and what is in the Earth; you have no authority for this; do you say against Allah what you do not know? Say: Those who forge a lie against Allah shall not be successful." - Koran 10:68-69 [SAYS JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF GOD AND WHOEVER SAYS SO IS A LIAR]

"....the Christians call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth." - Koran 9: 30

The Women - [4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and his Word which he communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and his apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one god; far be It from his glory that he should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector. (CLEARLY STATES THAT JESUS IS **NOT** THE SON OF GOD)

The Immunity - Denial of Deity of Christ and His Messiahship - [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! (MAY ALLAH DESTROY JEWS AND CHRISTIANS)

Say: "Praise be to Allah Who begets no son and has no partner in (His) dominion: nor (needs) he any to protect him from humiliation: Yea magnify him for his greatness and glory!" - Koran 17: 111

Further that he may warn those (also) who say "Allah hath begotten a son": - Koran 18: 4

It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that he should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When he determines a matter he only says to it "Be" and it is. - Koran 19: 35

They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! - Koran 19: 88-89

For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that he should beget a son. - Koran 19: 92

No son did Allah beget nor is there any god along with Him: (if there were many gods) behold each god would have taken away what he had created and some would have lorded it over others! Glory to Allah (he is free) from the (sort of) things they attribute to Him! - Koran 23: 91

he begetteth not nor is he begotten; - Koran 112: 3

The Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

The Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "The (Final) Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

The Hadith Volume 2, Book 26, Number 595:
Narrated 'Aisha:

(the mother of the faithful believers) I said, "O Allah's Apostle! We consider Jihad as the best deed." The Prophet said, "The best Jihad (for women) is Hajj Mabrur. "

The Hadith Volume 2, Book 26, Number 594:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet was asked, "Which is the best deed?" He said, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle." He was then asked, "Which is the next (in goodness)?" He said, "To participate in Jihad in Allah's Cause." He was then asked, "Which is the next?" He said, "To perform Hajj-Mabrur. "

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They are all whores
by BraveNewArabWorldOrder Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 7:07 PM

Women are unclean. Allah tells us that the women will infect you with the fires of hell. Women are all whores who must be kept away from you if you are to be clean. If a woman should touch you, even if she is a young girl, she should be beaten severley. If you are a man and you have relations with a woman not your wife or sister then you should grieve for much time. The woman however should be stoned to death. They are all pigs and whores. The west wants to infect us with their whores and their NFL cheerleaders. Allah hates the NFL. He can never beat the spread. The whore women cheerleaders distract Allah from the wager. If you have daughter the best you could do with her is to sell her or use her to kill Jews with an explosive belt. Women are the lowest form of life next to a Jew. They are all unclean adn have no place in society. Mohammad has said that women are like the beast of burden to serve and pleasure the clean man. The woman is like property. All of these women who write here should be quiet and get quickly back to their men. THeir men shoudl beat them for this transagression of speaking in public. Politics is the realm of men and women should not participate for this is against the teachings of the Last Prophet. You whores must bind your tongues and seek repentence. It is the western whore who tried to distract teh martyr Mohammad Atta form his mission of greatness by drawing him to an American titty bar. But he was strong and told the whore to leave him for he must proceed to his glorious mission for great Mohammad.

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a jewel
by george k Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 5:05 AM
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<<< Allah hates the NFL. He can never beat the spread.>>>>
That was a jewel!

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